Pencil Leadership Podcast

Find a place inside where there’s joy, and the joy will burn out the pain. – Joseph Campbell

​If you carry joy in your heart, you can heal any moment. – Carlos Santana

Erin Mac is a mentor to business owners and leaders for the last 16 years and an entrepreneur for 21 years. I help them to create an internal experience that is neutral and joyful so that whatever is going on externally cannot shake the internal experience. In essence how to find joy and cultivate it daily, regardless of where you are at and what is happening in your life.

​Today she shares with us the way we can have joy in our lives everyday, the difference between joy and happiness, and how to have more control over our future.